Comments on: Why bailouts will not stop the depression http://sovereignspeculator.com/2008/09/21/why-bailouts-will-not-stop-the-depression/ Thoughts on the markets and the decline of the west Wed, 12 Oct 2011 05:57:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Acai Berry select reviews http://sovereignspeculator.com/2008/09/21/why-bailouts-will-not-stop-the-depression/#comment-10644 Acai Berry select reviews Tue, 31 May 2011 04:58:04 +0000 http://sovereignspeculator.com/?p=1203#comment-10644 <strong>"It's possible but it's not practical because any visitors can send virus programs to your server or send large files that take all your band width."...</strong> "If it's not at the bottom of the page, it may be one he designed himself, or paid to have designed. You don't have to use a theme with a copyright notice in Wordpress. (And most of the plugins don't ever appear on the user's browser, so you can... “It’s possible but it’s not practical because any visitors can send virus programs to your server or send large files that take all your band width.”…

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By: b e v Francis http://sovereignspeculator.com/2008/09/21/why-bailouts-will-not-stop-the-depression/#comment-10515 b e v Francis Mon, 25 Apr 2011 18:30:20 +0000 http://sovereignspeculator.com/?p=1203#comment-10515 gt. rpt. but prof Kot. Lee. Cough "total s.a.m.'s debts pub pvt $188t. trillion twelve zero (more than $50T you report). West's gov's borrow to pay int., cant pay prin." "No repeat no shortage of silver..." "---> 3 2 1 g o l d "no slv shortage." eh, whats that aboot? gt. rpt. but prof Kot. Lee. Cough “total s.a.m.’s debts
pub pvt $188t. trillion twelve zero (more than $50T you
report). West’s gov’s borrow to pay int., cant pay prin.”
“No repeat no shortage of silver…”
“—> 3 2 1 g o l d “no slv shortage.” eh, whats that aboot?

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By: Daniel in The Lions' Den http://sovereignspeculator.com/2008/09/21/why-bailouts-will-not-stop-the-depression/#comment-1194 Daniel in The Lions' Den Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:05:19 +0000 http://sovereignspeculator.com/?p=1203#comment-1194 Over 20 years ago there was a warning, then over 10 years ago and now, the brilliant people of America, who once participated in government, have lost control. Actually, it happened many decades ago. China and India are, as I write, passing the US in most economic figures. Hang on to what you believe to be most important to you, help others as well, as the decline will now become a "free fall." MMW! Over 20 years ago there was a warning, then over 10 years ago and now, the brilliant people of America, who once participated in government, have lost control. Actually, it happened many decades ago. China and India are, as I write, passing the US in most economic figures. Hang on to what you believe to be most important to you, help others as well, as the decline will now become a “free fall.” MMW!

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By: Mike http://sovereignspeculator.com/2008/09/21/why-bailouts-will-not-stop-the-depression/#comment-887 Mike Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:30:16 +0000 http://sovereignspeculator.com/?p=1203#comment-887 Interesting. Well, it's true anyway and he probably would have agreed with it. Thanks for the digging. Interesting. Well, it’s true anyway and he probably would have agreed with it.

Thanks for the digging.

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By: PurplNeonLights http://sovereignspeculator.com/2008/09/21/why-bailouts-will-not-stop-the-depression/#comment-886 PurplNeonLights Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:16:54 +0000 http://sovereignspeculator.com/?p=1203#comment-886 I checked snopes.com about the Jefferson quote mentioned above. It turns out the quote was very likely not from Jefferson. Here is the link to the Snopes page about the quote: http://www.snopes.com/quotes/jefferson/banks.asp Indicentally, here is the quote: “If the American people ever allow the banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of ALL PROPERTY until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers occupied.” -Letter to then Secretary of the Treasury, Albert Gallatin, 1802 I checked snopes.com about the Jefferson quote mentioned above.

It turns out the quote was very likely not from Jefferson.

Here is the link to the Snopes page about the quote:

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/jefferson/banks.asp

Indicentally, here is the quote:

“If the American people ever allow the banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of ALL PROPERTY until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers occupied.”

-Letter to then Secretary of the Treasury, Albert Gallatin, 1802

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By: hcrosby http://sovereignspeculator.com/2008/09/21/why-bailouts-will-not-stop-the-depression/#comment-492 hcrosby Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:18:56 +0000 http://sovereignspeculator.com/?p=1203#comment-492 I just read that the Congress can repeal the FED's charter by a simple majority of both houses of Congress! What an elegant solution.....do away with central baking and have Congress re-assert its constitutional responsibility to issue sound money. And yes, I do believe in the tooth fairy.... I just read that the Congress can repeal the FED’s charter by a simple majority of both houses of Congress! What an elegant solution…..do away with central baking and have Congress re-assert its constitutional responsibility to issue sound money.

And yes, I do believe in the tooth fairy….

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By: Mike http://sovereignspeculator.com/2008/09/21/why-bailouts-will-not-stop-the-depression/#comment-216 Mike Mon, 22 Sep 2008 02:15:22 +0000 http://sovereignspeculator.com/?p=1203#comment-216 We're apparently going to see a lot of replays from the '30s. Speaking of the Exchange Stabilization Fund, I guess we should also expect it to bail banks out of their bad foreign bonds again. It's a great racket: get banana republics to take on debt to pay US companies to build things there, then when the countries default, have the US taxpayer make the bondholders whole again. But wait, under the new broader bailout language, "troubled assets" could include foreign bonds or anything at all. No more need to run these things by Congress piecemeal -- their time is better spend grilling baseball players over steroids. We’re apparently going to see a lot of replays from the ’30s.

Speaking of the Exchange Stabilization Fund, I guess we should also expect it to bail banks out of their bad foreign bonds again. It’s a great racket: get banana republics to take on debt to pay US companies to build things there, then when the countries default, have the US taxpayer make the bondholders whole again.

But wait, under the new broader bailout language, “troubled assets” could include foreign bonds or anything at all. No more need to run these things by Congress piecemeal — their time is better spend grilling baseball players over steroids.

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By: Bjorn http://sovereignspeculator.com/2008/09/21/why-bailouts-will-not-stop-the-depression/#comment-215 Bjorn Mon, 22 Sep 2008 01:38:28 +0000 http://sovereignspeculator.com/?p=1203#comment-215 A current news article on investmentnews.com introduced terminology that is troubling. "The Department of the Treasury announced today that for the next year, it will insure the holdings of any publicly offered eligible money market mutual fund that pays a fee to participate in the program. The agency received approval from President Bush to use the assets of the Exchange Stabilization Fund. The Exchange Stabilization Fund was established by the Gold Reserve Act of 1934. The act allows the secretary of the Treasury, with approval from the president, to “deal in gold, foreign exchange and other instruments of credit and securities” to promote international financial stability." The very mention of the Gold Reserve Act of 1934 caused warning bells to sound within me. A current news article on investmentnews.com introduced terminology that is troubling.

“The Department of the Treasury announced today that for the next year, it will insure the holdings of any publicly offered eligible money market mutual fund that pays a fee to participate in the program.
The agency received approval from President Bush to use the assets of the Exchange Stabilization Fund.

The Exchange Stabilization Fund was established by the Gold Reserve Act of 1934.

The act allows the secretary of the Treasury, with approval from the president, to “deal in gold, foreign exchange and other instruments of credit and securities” to promote international financial stability.”

The very mention of the Gold Reserve Act of 1934 caused warning bells to sound within me.

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By: Mike http://sovereignspeculator.com/2008/09/21/why-bailouts-will-not-stop-the-depression/#comment-211 Mike Sun, 21 Sep 2008 18:06:05 +0000 http://sovereignspeculator.com/?p=1203#comment-211 Amazing. Just goes to show why many call it the international banking cartel. Thomas Jefferson saw it coming: “If the American people ever allow the banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of ALL PROPERTY until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers occupied.” -Letter to then Secretary of the Treasury, Albert Gallatin, 1802 Amazing. Just goes to show why many call it the international banking cartel.

Thomas Jefferson saw it coming:

“If the American people ever allow the banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of ALL PROPERTY until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers occupied.”

-Letter to then Secretary of the Treasury, Albert Gallatin, 1802

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By: Bjorn http://sovereignspeculator.com/2008/09/21/why-bailouts-will-not-stop-the-depression/#comment-210 Bjorn Sun, 21 Sep 2008 17:49:58 +0000 http://sovereignspeculator.com/?p=1203#comment-210 I just read this off of a lead story on Drudge Report Exclusive: Foreign banks may get help By MIKE ALLEN | 9/21/08 7:24 AM EDT Text Size: In a change from the original proposal sent to Capitol Hill, foreign-based banks with big U.S. operations could qualify for the Treasury Department’s mortgage bailout, according to the fine print of an administration statement Saturday night. The theory, according to a participant in the negotiations, is that if the goal is to solve a liquidity crisis, it makes no sense to exclude banks that do a lot of lending in the United States. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson confirmed the change on ABC's "This Week," telling George Stephanopoulos that coverage of foreign-based banks is "a distinction without a difference to the American people." This boggles my mind. I cannot quite imagine where this takes us. More of the same, I know, but this points to a magnitude of debt relief that I cannot comprehend. I just read this off of a lead story on Drudge Report

Exclusive: Foreign banks may get help

By MIKE ALLEN | 9/21/08 7:24 AM EDT Text Size:
In a change from the original proposal sent to Capitol Hill, foreign-based banks with big U.S. operations could qualify for the Treasury Department’s mortgage bailout, according to the fine print of an administration statement Saturday night.

The theory, according to a participant in the negotiations, is that if the goal is to solve a liquidity crisis, it makes no sense to exclude banks that do a lot of lending in the United States.

Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson confirmed the change on ABC’s “This Week,” telling George Stephanopoulos that coverage of foreign-based banks is “a distinction without a difference to the American people.”

This boggles my mind. I cannot quite imagine where this takes us. More of the same, I know, but this points to a magnitude of debt relief that I cannot comprehend.

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