New York is a big place with lots of people - so obviously many attractive women have regular jobs However, given the concentration of wealth, there are also lots of women who get “help” (even if they have regular jobs) and lots of men who are more than willing to help. The way the girl in the article described her life led me to believe that she would not be averse to receiving such help. .. its very simple really - while at dinner with one of the “old men”, look sad for a while, he will ask whats wrong, pretend like nothing is, keep looking sad, finally tell him that you are short on rent and that it is stressing you out, and end of story. However, if that girl is going to go that route, being a drunken slob and skipping out on the gym does not do well for one’s long term prospects or physical appearance

Having lived in NYC most of my life, I will with full confidence say that most young (under 30) people in New York have very little if any savings. Most are in debt. Especially the women. Even if they have regular jobs that look good on paper. If you don’t plan on saving any money, living it up in NYC is not that hard - all you have to do is cover your basic expenses.

Regarding the usage of the word “dishonest” - I agree with you, if people are both on the same page, then its not anyone’s business. I would not have used the word “dishonest” - perhaps “of convenience” is a better descriptor. My point is that whatever you want to call such arrangements, there will be less providers in a downturn. Such arrangements provide little or no long term security for the women who come to rely on them, leaving them vulnerable in a downturn. … but really, everyone is vulnerable in a downturn, so it is all relative

With the amount of attractive women I see going to and from work, I must conclude that there must be other sources of income for most of those obsenely attractive females — they can’t all be models after all. I also I read the NY Post article yesterday — I don’t know if I can call those relationships Dupre lists as ‘dishonest’ per se. If the guy is naive (and I suppose many are), then there’s dishonesty. However, if both parties mutually agree to the nature of the relationship (regardless of what that entails) then that relationship is honest.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/09032009/news/regionalnews/ashley_dupre_blog_rant__187936.htm?page=0

I know many women who target guys with money and use them to get these things. They toy with them, flirt, go on dates, have sex and then drop hints about that new dress at the store down the street or being short on rent money – and the guys deliver it. This is a dishonest relationship. I see this all over New York City.

It was sort of part of the culture in NYC during boom times …

I know a few very decent human beings who have been laid off from NYC banks. I don’t mean to paint with too broad a stroke.

But this girl is not as atypical as one might think — a little extreme here (just a little — this is New York), but nothing so terribly out of the ordinary. There is no shortage of offensive young “high achieving” people in that city, and the US taxpayer finances their lifestyle, whether they are currently employed at a bank or fired in the last 18 months.