Comments on: Stock market action bolsters case for a top. http://sovereignspeculator.com/2009/10/28/stock-market-action-bolsters-case-for-a-top/ Thoughts on the markets and economics from a lone, wandering participant. Sun, 23 Sep 2012 23:15:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Allen http://sovereignspeculator.com/2009/10/28/stock-market-action-bolsters-case-for-a-top/#comment-1256 Wed, 04 Nov 2009 00:47:49 +0000 http://sovereignspeculator.com/?p=2930#comment-1256 Thanks for your thoughts Mike (and Graphite). I read the Treasury MM article in the Most Viewed list. I definitely use a Treasury MM for a large portion of my assets. I am trying to sort out if any other bonds still have a place in a conservative portfolio, like GNMA, or 2 y. Notes.
I have in the past resisted the idea of holding gold. I have to find a place to put it, no interest, etc. But I am thinking it is a good idea, for the reason you suggest. I might like to buy at a lower price however. Maybe me reaching this decision indicates a top for gold:)

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By: PEJ http://sovereignspeculator.com/2009/10/28/stock-market-action-bolsters-case-for-a-top/#comment-1255 Tue, 03 Nov 2009 23:31:26 +0000 http://sovereignspeculator.com/?p=2930#comment-1255 Damn, I missed that incredible news about india buying IMF’s gold
http://realitylenses.blogspot.com/2009/11/gold-closes-at-record-high-with-imf.html
The next step is probably going to be China to buy the remaining 203 tons.

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By: PEJ http://sovereignspeculator.com/2009/10/28/stock-market-action-bolsters-case-for-a-top/#comment-1254 Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:55:30 +0000 http://sovereignspeculator.com/?p=2930#comment-1254 And I’m surprised that that other guy Matt Damon is not here yet to celebrate gold at 1085 and silver back above 17.
PM are on fire!

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By: Graphite http://sovereignspeculator.com/2009/10/28/stock-market-action-bolsters-case-for-a-top/#comment-1253 Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:36:00 +0000 http://sovereignspeculator.com/?p=2930#comment-1253 I make some use of TreasuryDirect alongside my MMF holdings and have found it to be a convenient and safe method of holding cash.

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By: Mike http://sovereignspeculator.com/2009/10/28/stock-market-action-bolsters-case-for-a-top/#comment-1252 Sun, 01 Nov 2009 21:24:05 +0000 http://sovereignspeculator.com/?p=2930#comment-1252 Hi Allen,

You would have to dig through the prospecti of those ETFs to determine their real asset structures, and furthermore, you assume the risk of your brokerage going under if you go that route. It is much safer IMO to just buy into a Treasury-only MMF like those mentioned in that popular post listed at the top right of the blog. You then have a clear ownership claim and can write checks straight from the account. There is also Treasury Direct, though I don’t have any experience with it.

GNMA funds depend on the US continuing to back up that (generally risky) debt. The advantage of short-term Treasuries is they will be the very last paper to be defaulted on. Basically, the government will have to topple before they go bad (and if that is coming around the corner, you want physical gold).

I hope my opinion helps.

Mike

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By: Allen http://sovereignspeculator.com/2009/10/28/stock-market-action-bolsters-case-for-a-top/#comment-1251 Sun, 01 Nov 2009 18:49:14 +0000 http://sovereignspeculator.com/?p=2930#comment-1251 Hi Mike,
I am new to this site but I have read some of the older posts and I like your insights. I have a question: I am not a speculator but seek safety. You mentioned in today’s post Treasury MMF. As an alternative, what do you think of SHV and/or SHY? Is there something about their structure as ETFs that makes them less safe? Also, I hold a GNMA mutual fund. It has done well through this mess so far. What is your opinion on the risks there?

Thank you,

Allen

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By: Mike http://sovereignspeculator.com/2009/10/28/stock-market-action-bolsters-case-for-a-top/#comment-1250 Sun, 01 Nov 2009 03:44:43 +0000 http://sovereignspeculator.com/?p=2930#comment-1250 We have no idea how this is going to play out — rolling top like a 2007 redux, maybe, or maybe ’30 or ’37. Even odds in my book, but I think crash conditions will return sooner or later in either case, and the SPX is headed for a date with value.

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By: Mike http://sovereignspeculator.com/2009/10/28/stock-market-action-bolsters-case-for-a-top/#comment-1249 Sun, 01 Nov 2009 03:42:46 +0000 http://sovereignspeculator.com/?p=2930#comment-1249 Aki, you think too much. KISS!

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By: Mike http://sovereignspeculator.com/2009/10/28/stock-market-action-bolsters-case-for-a-top/#comment-1248 Sun, 01 Nov 2009 03:41:53 +0000 http://sovereignspeculator.com/?p=2930#comment-1248 FYI, I went heavily short again near Thursday’s highs and hedged up again late Friday. I’m ambiguous about next week — I’d like another little bounce to lever up short again, since I think this move could take us to SPX 1000 before a good rally.

Overall, this is looking very good for the bears. We just need good set-ups for the right risk-reward profile to get short with clear stops.

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By: Aki_Izayoi http://sovereignspeculator.com/2009/10/28/stock-market-action-bolsters-case-for-a-top/#comment-1247 Sun, 01 Nov 2009 02:37:57 +0000 http://sovereignspeculator.com/?p=2930#comment-1247 I am still bearish…

Five reasons why I am bearish:

I. Short interest is relatively low and it seemed to have bottomed in October 2009. From the linked graph, short interest has further to go.

II. Money managers are generally bullish.

III. The market is still not oversold as the MACD hasn’t breached zero on SPY yet, the RSI is still at 40 though, but I do not expect this “correction” to result in a “panic bottom” where the RSI sinks below 30. I assume panic bottoms do not happen when the crowd is still already skeptical and bearish during the peak.

IV. During uptrends, in order to outperform one must buy the dips. In order to do this, one must convert the cash in a portfolio to stocks, sell something else in the portfolio to buy stocks, or borrow money to this. A correction will trigger stop losses to force even more selling. The bullish fuel that made people buy the dips by either of the three means seems to be exhausted.

V. Volatility will discourage people from taking short positions during a sell-off as they do remember the pain from shorting early in July and the rally on Thursday this week, but if is positioned from shorting the market at a top, then one would not have to worry about whipsaw. This volatility would force the weak long positions to sell, and result in a gradual rise in short positions.

Again, I do not see the bear’s beatific vision coming. Inflows into bond funds are still high, and the crowd remains bearish overall. The market has a built in sentiment support, or perhaps, low interest rates allow one to put high multiples on stock.

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