Comments on: Why nobody invades Switzerland http://sovereignspeculator.com/2010/01/12/why-nobody-invades-switzerland/ Thoughts on the markets and the decline of the west Sat, 12 Nov 2011 08:47:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Yuri http://sovereignspeculator.com/2010/01/12/why-nobody-invades-switzerland/#comment-8188 Yuri Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:46:46 +0000 http://sovereignspeculator.com/?p=3307#comment-8188 While Hitler never attacked Switzerland in WW2 because it was more valuable for him as an independent country, the the time needed for occupation was expected to be "one week until the last resistance was destroyed". There wasn't one bunker that the Wehrmacht wasn't aware of. The Swiss army today is the same joke it was 60 years ago. While Hitler never attacked Switzerland in WW2 because it was more valuable for him as an independent country, the the time needed for occupation was expected to be “one week until the last resistance was destroyed”. There wasn’t one bunker that the Wehrmacht wasn’t aware of.
The Swiss army today is the same joke it was 60 years ago.

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By: Mike http://sovereignspeculator.com/2010/01/12/why-nobody-invades-switzerland/#comment-8179 Mike Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:41:57 +0000 http://sovereignspeculator.com/?p=3307#comment-8179 Sure, Germany could have crushed the Swiss if it needed, but the cost/benefit analysis didn't warrant an invasion. Crafty, armed neutrality certainly seems to be a winning strategy, since the Swiss have stood like a rock as empire after empire (the latest being the EU) has has lapped at their shores. Every other country in Europe experienced devastation in the Napoleonic and world wars (Germany, Poland, Belarus, Ukraine and Russia fared the worst). Sure, Germany could have crushed the Swiss if it needed, but the cost/benefit analysis didn’t warrant an invasion.

Crafty, armed neutrality certainly seems to be a winning strategy, since the Swiss have stood like a rock as empire after empire (the latest being the EU) has has lapped at their shores. Every other country in Europe experienced devastation in the Napoleonic and world wars (Germany, Poland, Belarus, Ukraine and Russia fared the worst).

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By: Charles http://sovereignspeculator.com/2010/01/12/why-nobody-invades-switzerland/#comment-8175 Charles Fri, 15 Jan 2010 14:32:08 +0000 http://sovereignspeculator.com/?p=3307#comment-8175 As many wars have proved, from Cesar's Gauls conquest (1/3 of the population massacred !) to Indian wars in the US, guerilla warfare is useless when the invading force is determined to enforce genocide if resistance is too strong. The Swiss strategy was essentially giving up the flatlands, and leaving civilians to their fate. Once more than 50% of the population is hostage, what can one do ? This may be OK for temporarily holding gold bars that are in Bank vaults in the mountains, but on a long term basis, it is a strategical dead-end. The Scandinavians were no lesser fighters than the Swiss, but they were trampled fairly easily. The only people that stood up to the challenge were the Russians, because the leadership didn't care about hostages that could be killed, and because they had strategical depth allowing deployment of supply lines (via Mourmansk and Siberia). Both lacked for Switzerland IMO. The only hope of small states is to be strategic enough to grab the interest of the big countries that are at war, so that the latter keep supply lines open.On top of that, small countries have to choose wisely who is going to be the winning side (The finns chose wrongly in WW2 and paid for it... Try to imagine the dilemma of say, Singaporeans, in a China/US conflict !). The "Asterix the Gaul" strategy is a very poor one, unless one has significant WMD threat available a la Israel. This is another element that lacks in the Swiss toolbox. As many wars have proved, from Cesar’s Gauls conquest (1/3 of the population massacred !) to Indian wars in the US, guerilla warfare is useless when the invading force is determined to enforce genocide if resistance is too strong. The Swiss strategy was essentially giving up the flatlands, and leaving civilians to their fate. Once more than 50% of the population is hostage, what can one do ? This may be OK for temporarily holding gold bars that are in Bank vaults in the mountains, but on a long term basis, it is a strategical dead-end. The Scandinavians were no lesser fighters than the Swiss, but they were trampled fairly easily. The only people that stood up to the challenge were the Russians, because the leadership didn’t care about hostages that could be killed, and because they had strategical depth allowing deployment of supply lines (via Mourmansk and Siberia). Both lacked for Switzerland IMO.

The only hope of small states is to be strategic enough to grab the interest of the big countries that are at war, so that the latter keep supply lines open.On top of that, small countries have to choose wisely who is going to be the winning side (The finns chose wrongly in WW2 and paid for it… Try to imagine the dilemma of say, Singaporeans, in a China/US conflict !).

The “Asterix the Gaul” strategy is a very poor one, unless one has significant WMD threat available a la Israel. This is another element that lacks in the Swiss toolbox.

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By: Pej http://sovereignspeculator.com/2010/01/12/why-nobody-invades-switzerland/#comment-8161 Pej Wed, 13 Jan 2010 00:21:06 +0000 http://sovereignspeculator.com/?p=3307#comment-8161 Thanks Mike, this confirms a conversation I had a week ago with one of my friends who moved to Geneva. I couldn't believe the Swiss where spending so much money on military when he first told me! Thanks Mike, this confirms a conversation I had a week ago with one of my friends who moved to Geneva. I couldn’t believe the Swiss where spending so much money on military when he first told me!

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By: craig http://sovereignspeculator.com/2010/01/12/why-nobody-invades-switzerland/#comment-8160 craig Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:42:17 +0000 http://sovereignspeculator.com/?p=3307#comment-8160 when i was vacationing in switzerland, our tour guide spoke extensively about the tremendous national pride of marksmanship and the annual accuracy and shooting results of the citizens (results were made public). The tour guide also lamented the decrease in pride of being an expert marksman....slowly but surely, the tradition wanes. That said, there are still a lot of excellent shots in the country. when i was vacationing in switzerland, our tour guide spoke extensively about the tremendous national pride of marksmanship and the annual accuracy and shooting results of the citizens (results were made public). The tour guide also lamented the decrease in pride of being an expert marksman….slowly but surely, the tradition wanes. That said, there are still a lot of excellent shots in the country.

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