Marc Faber and Mish Shedlock on inflation vs. deflation

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I’m with Mish in this debate of course, since a credit implosion trumps a money printer, I but have the utmost respect for the adroit Swiss. The two of them have much more in common than either has with most other money managers or commentators.

I totally agree with Faber that the US is not a civilized nation anymore, entirely due to the expansion of the state. I could say the same about the UK, Canada, Australia and most of western Europe. The whole region feels like a big kindergarten where the teacher wears a .380 and a bulletproof vest.

Rap battle: Keynes vs. Hayek

Watch for Tim and Ben as the bartenders.

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Hit tip to Kevin Duffy.

Lyrics (from econstories.tv):

We’ve been going back and forth for a century
[Keynes] I want to steer markets,
[Hayek] I want them set free
There’s a boom and bust cycle and good reason to fear it
[Hayek] Blame low interest rates.
[Keynes] No… it’s the animal spirits

[Keynes Sings:]

John Maynard Keynes, wrote the book on modern macro
The man you need when the economy’s off track, [whoa]
Depression, recession now your question’s in session
Have a seat and I’ll school you in one simple lesson

BOOM, 1929 the big crash
We didn’t bounce back—economy’s in the trash
Persistent unemployment, the result of sticky wages
Waiting for recovery? Seriously? That’s outrageous!

I had a real plan any fool can understand
The advice, real simple—boost aggregate demand!
C, I, G, all together gets to Y
Make sure the total’s growing, watch the economy fly

We’ve been going back and forth for a century
[Keynes] I want to steer markets,
[Hayek] I want them set free
There’s a boom and bust cycle and good reason to fear it
[Hayek] Blame low interest rates.
[Keynes] No… it’s the animal spirits

You see it’s all about spending, hear the register cha-ching
Circular flow, the dough is everything
So if that flow is getting low, doesn’t matter the reason
We need more government spending, now it’s stimulus season

So forget about saving, get it straight out of your head
Like I said, in the long run—we’re all dead
Savings is destruction, that’s the paradox of thrift
Don’t keep money in your pocket, or that growth will never lift…

because…

Business is driven by the animal spirits
The bull and the bear, and there’s reason to fear its
Effects on capital investment, income and growth
That’s why the state should fill the gap with stimulus both…

The monetary and the fiscal, they’re equally correct
Public works, digging ditches, war has the same effect
Even a broken window helps the glass man have some wealth
The multiplier driving higher the economy’s health

And if the Central Bank’s interest rate policy tanks
A liquidity trap, that new money’s stuck in the banks!
Deficits could be the cure, you been looking for
Let the spending soar, now that you know the score

My General Theory’s made quite an impression
[a revolution] I transformed the econ profession
You know me, modesty, still I’m taking a bow
Say it loud, say it proud, we’re all Keynesians now

We’ve been goin’ back n forth for a century
[Keynes] I want to steer markets,
[Hayek] I want them set free
There’s a boom and bust cycle and good reason to fear it
[Keynes] I made my case, Freddie H
Listen up , Can you hear it?

Hayek sings:

I’ll begin in broad strokes, just like my friend Keynes
His theory conceals the mechanics of change,
That simple equation, too much aggregation
Ignores human action and motivation

And yet it continues as a justification
For bailouts and payoffs by pols with machinations
You provide them with cover to sell us a free lunch
Then all that we’re left with is debt, and a bunch

If you’re living high on that cheap credit hog
Don’t look for cure from the hair of the dog
Real savings come first if you want to invest
The market coordinates time with interest

Your focus on spending is pushing on thread
In the long run, my friend, it’s your theory that’s dead
So sorry there, buddy, if that sounds like invective
Prepared to get schooled in my Austrian perspective

We’ve been going back and forth for a century
[Keynes] I want to steer markets,
[Hayek] I want them set free
There’s a boom and bust cycle and good reason to fear it
[Hayek] Blame low interest rates.
[Keynes] No… it’s the animal spirits

The place you should study isn’t the bust
It’s the boom that should make you feel leery, that’s the thrust
Of my theory, the capital structure is key.
Malinvestments wreck the economy

The boom gets started with an expansion of credit
The Fed sets rates low, are you starting to get it?
That new money is confused for real loanable funds
But it’s just inflation that’s driving the ones

Who invest in new projects like housing construction
The boom plants the seeds for its future destruction
The savings aren’t real, consumption’s up too
And the grasping for resources reveals there’s too few

So the boom turns to bust as the interest rates rise
With the costs of production, price signals were lies
The boom was a binge that’s a matter of fact
Now its devalued capital that makes up the slack.

Whether it’s the late twenties or two thousand and five
Booming bad investments, seems like they’d thrive
You must save to invest, don’t use the printing press
Or a bust will surely follow, an economy depressed

Your so-called “stimulus” will make things even worse
It’s just more of the same, more incentives perversed
And that credit crunch ain’t a liquidity trap
Just a broke banking system, I’m done, that’s a wrap.

We’ve been goin’ back n forth for a century
[Keynes] I want to steer markets,
[Hayek] I want them set free
There’s a boom and bust cycle and good reason to fear it
[Hayek] Blame low interest rates.
[Keynes] No it’s the animal spirits

Census employment nonsense

Bloomberg is reporting that some lame-brain economists are excited about the employment boost of the 2010 census:

Jan. 8 (Bloomberg) — The 2010 census couldn’t have come at a better time for the U.S. economy.

The government will hire about 1.2 million temporary workers in the first half of the year to administer the decennial population count, possibly providing a bridge to gains in private employment later in the year.

The surge will probably dwarf any hiring by private employers early in 2010 as companies delay adding staff until they are convinced the economic recovery will be sustained. Money earned by the clipboard-toting workers going door-to-door to verify the government population survey is likely to be spent, giving the economy an extra lift.

“It’s a short-term stimulus program in which the government’s injecting money into the economy through additional paychecks,” said Dean Maki, chief U.S. economist at Barclays Capital Inc. in New York, who projects that 2.5 million more Americans will be working at the end of the year. “This will support consumer income during those months.”

(cont…) The stimulus bill President Barack Obama signed in February and additional funding by Congress provided enough money to hire 1.4 million Americans in total for the census, almost three times as many as in 2000. About 160,000 were already employed last year to do preliminary work.

The Census Bureau anticipates hiring about 181,000 workers from January through March and about 971,000 in the following three months.

First Five Months

The economy may add about 700,000 jobs in May alone, mostly because of the census, Gault said. Even Maki’s more optimistic assessment of the employment outlook means the U.S. may take years to recover the 7.2 million jobs lost since the recession began in December 2007.

“The bulk of these employees are from the low end of the income distribution; they are cash-constrained,” said Neal Soss, chief economist at Credit Suisse in New York who forecasts the economy will add a little more than 1 million jobs this year. “Having a paycheck is allowing them to spend in a way that they wouldn’t otherwise.”

Hiring for the census may also help lower the unemployment rate early this year, economists said, though the influence will be less than in payrolls. For example, some of the people hired may have other part-time jobs, limiting the impact on joblessness.

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This is typical mainstream Keynesian hogwash, which always supports government spending, no matter how useless or counterproductive. The less a corrupt government knows about the people who live under its rule, the better. Aside from that, in hard times wasteful programs like the Census should be completely dispensed with or postponed. For goodness’ sake, I bet a private firm could assemble better data for 1/100th the cost (if they haven’t already done so and sold it at a profit).

Keynesians never consider where the capital comes from for all of this useless employment. Capital can’t be created at will by bureaucrats. It has to be produced through intelligently orchestrated labor and saved by not consuming the fruits of that labor. This is what is stolen by the government when it taxes, prints money or issues debt to “create jobs.” It drains the economy of the savings needed to create real jobs and keeps us from building up the capital we need to grow out of depressions. This is what put the Great in the depression of the 1930s.

(Edit: checking Mish just now, I see that he posted on this same topic today)

Don’t worry about the Fed printing…yet.

Here are a couple of charts that illustrate the significance of what the Fed has undertaken lately. First, look at the change in its balance sheet this year from about $870 billion, almost all in Treasuries, to $1.5 trillion, with fewer Treasuries, more repos and swaps, and an alphabet soup of new credit facilities:

Source: Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta’s Macroblog (yes, a Fed branch has a blog).

For the inflation/deflation issue, what matters at the moment is that all that new credit (not much new currency, only about $30 billion more in actual notes) is just sitting in banks. Unlike in the Greenspan years, nobody worthy of credit wants to borrow the new funds, since they can’t generate positive returns on investments, and the banks aren’t lending to people with bad credit anymore.

How do we know it is not being lent out? The Fed is actually pretty transparent as far as nefarious government sponsored entities go, and provides a lot of useful data through the FRED website. Here is the sum of loans and investments at US commercial banks:

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As you can see, lending has gone flat after an enormous expansion. And this is just the past 5 years — check out the longer view for a graph that would have knocked Mises’ Austrian socks off:

When you hear “credit bubble”, think of the above.

Workers of America, Unite! (to fight the evil of lower prices)

Inflation, in the end, will have to come from massive government spending programs. The Greater Depression will have a scaled up New Deal. Keynesianism is still all the rage, and when the bailouts have had time to fail, expect Obama to start handing out trillions to government contractors through various new Orwellian-sounding departments and administrations.

For the dollar, the Treasury market will be the canary in the coal mine. It is rallying now from safe-haven buying, as it should, and it could even go a lot higher, but when it turns, grab your gold and run. Nothing is so damaging to an economy as government work programs and the kind of inflation that they create. This is what happened in the Wiemar Republic. The government was the main employer, and it paid workers (and foreign creditors) with freshly printed cash.

In the US, I imagine that the public finance system will continue to operate as it always has: 1) Taxes, income from which will continue to drop in the depression; 2) Bond sales, but there is a limit to the world’s appetite for notes from a bankrupt creditor; 3) Federal Reserve money creation for the purchase of bonds that the public does not want. This last part is how fresh cash gets into circulation, and how the government indirectly funds itself through printing. When public demand for Treasuries dries up, you can bet the government’s demand for funds will be greater than ever, so then we will see what Bernanke can really do with a printing press.