Weakness developing in commodities

Checking the 15-min bar chart, copper and oil are not looking too spirited.

Here’s oil:

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And copper, same scale:

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And of course platinum and palladium are looking busted. Daily charts here.

Platinum:

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Palladium:

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The technical damage in these metals is probably not a good sign for gold and silver either.

Silver’s daily chart leaves a thing or two to be desired:

The precious metals

In this 1-week chart, from top to bottom as of today’s highs, they are: palladium, platinum, gold and (the all-of-a-sudden quite unpopular) silver.

Source: Interactive Brokers

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I have no position in gold or silver futures at the moment, but am shorting the other white metals. Platinum and palladium broke parabolic runs last month and fell very hard. They’ve now rebounded more than enough to restore bullishness to where they can resume their decline if they so choose.

PS – For curiousity’s sake, I wonder what they are saying out there to explain the drop in silver from $19.50 going on $30 to a shade over $16. Rumors of better mine supply? Stories of Grandma cashing in her serving platter? Mexicans shelving their (excellent) idea for a new Peso de plata? I have no clue, since it doesn’t matter a whit.

Dow update

We followed through nicely on that triangle breakout from yesterday, and we’re now actually into overbought territory on a 30-min scale:

Source: Prophet.net

I closed my futures longs just now and actually reversed the position to an extent. 10-min bar is showing negative divergence during this push from 10,200 to 10,300.

What a move in platinum today! Glad I closed that one yesterday. The metal should provide shorts another nice move before long. I just want to see a bit more of the structure play out before jumping back in.

UPDATE (3:15): We got a tiny contracting triangle correction instead of a drop, followed by an upside breakout.

Chart (3:22). Just shorted on account of the overbought 2-min RSI and a pattern of successively lower peaks in 10-min RSI:

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Platinum update

The MACD on platinum’s daily bar chart is giving a sell signal:

Source: futures.tradingcharts.com

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Platinum prices and sentiment charged ahead and made a new high a week ago as gold tried to get its mojo back and failed. When the metals complex turned lower, platinum fell hardest, a cool 100 bucks in two days. All of this talk about cars in China is swell, except that they are the only growing auto market these days and even their debt bubble is bursting. And besides, that stuff isn’t tradable information anyway. The fact is, platinum may as well be gold most of the time, since the precious metals move together with a very high degree of correlation.

Platinum peaking?

Here is a 1-year view of platinum (blue) vs. gold (purple). PL made new recovery highs this week as gold and silver potentially finished up corrective rallies from their hard decline off their December highs. PL is the odd man out, and bullishness has been running very high here, mirroring the overall optimism about commodities. The parabolic rise in PL’s chart reminds me of gold’s peak last month. Also nice from a trading perspective is that there is a fairly tight stop available against the high.

Source: Interactive Brokers

Cool-headed interview with John Nadler of Kitco

Nadler is great to read because he’s in the precious metals industry (Kitco is a bullion dealer), but he isn’t a perma-bull. He takes a non-hysterical approach to the market, and provides insights into internal supply and demand forces.

This is a long interview, published here. Here’s an excerpt:

“…If deflationary pressures really take hold, we may have a case of “reverse hedge” developing, whereby gold might still fall to the mid-$600s or even as low as the low $500s, but still fall less in percentage terms than other assets might. In that case, investors would still be better off holding some gold and lots of cash rather than equities or real estate and such. Hopefully we don’t head into that deflationary spiral because that could hurt a lot of higher-priced producers of gold. Certainly a lot of the mining companies would have to reconsider what projects to mothball if that happens.

If we don’t go into that vortex and confidence returns by whatever means, things could stabilize. Stability in gold would imply a trading range between $650 and $850. It’s definitely a blow to the doomsday newsletter writers, who thought the circumstances we are seeing now were the ideal scenarios they’d dreamt of as far back as we can recall. They know, however, that the world of $2,000 gold is not one they would want to live in.

The fact that in July gold had trouble surpassing $930, (not even matching the March highs when Bear Stearns failed), was definitely a big wake-up call as to what was going on. And of course what’s going on is that a lot of people had already bought gold starting at $252 and all the way up to $400 and $600. When this big crisis hit, if they spotted their 401(k) accounts off by 38% and their gold holdings ahead by 50% or 60% or much more, it wasn’t a hard decision to make. They liquidated that which was profitable in order to mitigate their losses. That’s why they’d bought their gold to begin with.

So the latecomers, those who were rushing in, having put off their gold purchases until it became a burning issue, basically got caught trying to buy into this “runaway train” scenario. The few people who tried cost-averaging higher-level purchases of $900 to $1,000-plus were the freshest of buyers during these past couple of weeks. The difference we spotted in retail transaction patterns is that this particular cycle in the gold market brought out quite a few sellers, along with new buyers. So there’s very good two-way activity going on in the physical market.

TGR: The gold bullion coins appear to have a very high premium over the gold spot price, so there still seems to be some fear out there, or is it shortages?

JN: Some issues in the physical market are really grossly misinterpreted. Observers are not doing anyone any favors. My perception is that we have a contingent of pundits who are extremely panicked that this is a very poor reaction by gold to the crisis, and it will make them look bad. It already has. Now they’re trying to manufacture this global stampede into gold by panicking investors and by scaring them with stories of supplies running out. No one will argue that there are higher levels of individual investor interest, but it’s nothing “unprecedented.” They’re trying to make it out as unprecedented, and that’s simply not the case. Perhaps it says more about how short a time such pundits have spent in these markets.

TGR: Just how real is the shortage in coins, then?

JN: Specifically, what’s going on with the coins is that most of the mints of the world do not operate on a “produce-then-wait-and-see” basis. They don’t pre-mint hundreds of thousands of coins and put them on the shelf waiting for buyers to materialize. They basically operate on a mint-to-demand policy.

Because of the prolonged bear market in the ’80s and ’90s, most of them had slimmed down to bare essentials and, in fact, a lot farm out some components of the coin manufacturing process, such as blanking. The U.S. Mint is one of them. They ran into some blank coin quality problems in silver back in March, with about half a million silver blank rejects. That put them behind the production schedules, and when demand indeed kicked in for physical small coins, they were unable to fulfill commitments on a timely basis. This does not mean they ceased production. In fact, most of these mints consider small-item production quite profitable, which implies that they have added shifts, are finding new suppliers of blanks and new refiners for material, and augmenting production to meet the demand. Inventory build-up is one of their top current priorities.

Look back in recent history at the classical gold rushes, if you will. During the first one, in that inflationary period in the late ’70s and early ’80s, some 16 million Krugerrands were sold globally. The market events of 1987 brought on the next wave of buying, and that is when the U.S. Mint sold more than 1.25 million ounces of gold. Nor should we lose sight of the fact that in the ’91 recession, just a few short years later, they only sold a quarter million ounces. And then we go to about 1999 before Y2K. Again, they suspended sales of certain products like silver rounds, which were being hoarded by people expecting the end of the world. Next would be May of 2006, with the North Korean and Iranian political tensions. Again, very good robust sales, but nothing of the magnitude of ’80 or ’87, and similar to what we’ve had since last year. But at best, I think this year the U.S. Mint will sell about 750,000 or 800,000 ounces. It’s not the level of 1987’s stampede or panic, so I don’t see why they’re trying to make it out to be something bigger than it is.

TGR: Why is there such a premium, though? Just because they’re undersupplied?

JN: Yes, once the retail shops saw the Mint selling coins on an allocation basis, with some restrictions to build up inventories, the retailers started raising premiums on coins that they couldn’t basically get to fulfill previously sold orders. They raised their bids; they also raised their offer. It’s really limited to items like the silver rounds and some of the smaller fractional coins.

But in terms of Kitco getting supplies, basically we took the attitude that if we could not get a commitment from our distributors and suppliers as to a firm premium and/or a delivery date or both, we simply removed the items from the order pages in the online store. Those order pages are limited to items we are confident we can deliver at a decent price within a decent number of days. I know that the list is looking pretty slim, but we do have product to sell, and our pool accounts have never had any shortage of underlying material to secure; namely, 1,000-ounce bars of silver and 400-ounce bars of gold. We continue to offset 100% of all pool account purchases for the peace of mind of our clients.

And we’re adding back a lot of the items that had been removed. For instance, we just got several tens of thousands in gold coins and about a quarter million in silver coins from the Royal Canadian Mint. We’re getting Austrian gold and silver coins in very soon, and I’m sure that the U.S. will restart its sales to distributors once they switch dates on the coins to 2009. This is, coincidentally, the period when mints cease producing old (current year) dating and start with the new ones, and the switchover generally creates a bit of a glitch, too. At any rate, there will be product. We have eggs, thus we will have the omelet as well.

TGR: So it would be prudent to wait a bit.

JN: Absolutely. People are not good consumers if they go out and pay $5 over spot on $10.50 silver just to secure something that they think they’re going to have to barter at the grocery store….”

Silver, platinum, palladium say gold needs to fall.

This spring, as gold topped out at over $1000 per ounce, platinum hit $2250, silver breached $20, and palladium reached $579. The ratios at the time were roughly 1:0.45, 1:50, and 1:1.75, respectively, about where they had been for the last several years.

Here are the five-year charts from Kitco, in order of descending pain:

I expected gold’s increase in relative value, since the other metals are considered more “risky” assets and depend more on industrial demand, but these ratios are looking a bit extreme. The one that jumps out at me is platinum priced only 10% higher than gold, at a level where gold was trading just two days ago!

With the deflationary carnage that has taken place in the rest of the precious metals (and base metals), gold’s grip on the $800 level is looking more and more tenuous. I have been figuring on $600 for some time, but now I am thinking that $400 is not out of the question. $400 sounds nuts, but there is a massive phase shift underway, in which cash is going from a hot potato to the one thing everyone needs but nobody seems to have.

That said, gold has been increasing in value against everything but dollars and yen, and to a lesser extent, euros, pounds, Swiss francs and some other currencies. It has been acting like a currency in this deflation, though one in need of a correction. In that regard, a fall to $400 would coincide with much more extreme dollar-denominated declines in almost all other assets.

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For more on this shift, see:

Bond sell-off just a correction. Bailouts will not stop deflation.

Don’t worry about the Fed printing… yet.